I need a clear description! - BBO Discussion Forums - Bridge Base Online You can play the responder's pass of the xx as penalty of spades (I think Mike would) but I think it usually means that responder has nothing better to say Coming back to the doubler, 1N is natural and shows 16-17 The doubler quadoubles (the orange card in your box) without a 4 card suit and 2 of a new suit promises 5